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[In fact it has led to a few
service problems on odd days.
- Apologies if you have been affected, but everything
is back on the straight-and-level now!]
Day 2020 usage of our website was more than DOUBLE any
previous record. A
stand-out in popularity was the moving Prisoner
of War poem "Mates". (Neil
tells us that it was mentioned on the Alan
Jones breakfast radio show.)
Many other readers accessed a wide range of topics, including our Veteran Interviews. - Judging by the demand patterns, some of these excellent reminiscences may have been chosen by teachers as texts for “remote-schooling” their pupils!
who is the son of WW2 Kittyhawk ace “Bardie” WAWN, DFC,
has been in touch.
[Our website describes Bardie as, ”slim, dark, and handsome."
- “Which,” says Clive, “has been a hard act to follow!”]
Clive is wondering if anyone has a digital copy of Peter JEFFREY's logbook. [1941 3SQN C.O.] Clive says: “Peter JEFFREY and Pete TURNBULL both flew with my dad in June 1942, at 2OTU Mildura. Pete Turnbull and Bardie then went to Milne Bay with 76 SQN RAAF. Dad later went back to 2OTU as an Instructor. Anthony KOCH of the 2OTU Heritage Centre (firstname.lastname@example.org) is seeking Peter Jeffrey's logbook, to acknowledge his time there.
"I took it on myself to approach you and hope that you will be able to help out. I'd love to get a copy as well, please.”
RAWLINSON and SQNLDR Frank FISCHER;
and FLTLT C. W. “Bardie”
2OTU Mildura, VIC. 16 June 1942. Five RAAF pilots who won the DFC.
[L to R:] SQNLDR Keith "Bluey" TRUSCOTT; then three ex-3SQN officers: SQNLDR Peter JEFFREY,
Unfortunately, although 3SQN Assn does
hold a few scans of logbooks, Pete Jeffrey’s log is not amongst
them. (If any reader
can help, please let us know.)
Clive displays six logbooks from his collection on this link, including the famous “Bluey” TRUSCOTT and Clive’s handsome dad, “Bardie” WAWN.
Chris CAMERON in Queensland has sent us an amusing folklore memory about an Italian General (who was flying in to surrender) being shot down by a NUDE 3SQN pilot...
Chris recalls hearing this many years ago from one of the WW2 vets, possibly Nicky BARR. - Although Chris’s father “Tiny” also told similar stories occasionally… [Warning: This story contains nudity!]
In the heat of the desert environment, it was pretty commonplace to get around in just a pair of shorts. Sometimes not even that! (If it was REALLY hot.)
After realising that much had been destroyed, the General turned his attention to the fighter plane taxying in… He began relating all the wonderful flights of endurance and record-breaking navigation that he had undertaken in peacetime; remarking that the young man who had shot him down must indeed be a Great Ace, and that it would be an honour to meet him…
switched off, and out hopped the “Great Ace”, wearing ONLY a
flying helmet and boots…
We can imagine the General’s reaction!
Chris writes: “I’m pretty sure it was not my father, but have a niggling feeling it may have been Nicky as the guilty party! Sadly, it’s not possible to ask them now…”]
FARRELL, our QLD Secretary, sends in a
True Mirage Tale
from one of the groundcrew boys….
Whilst doing the
pre-flight inspection for a “Night Radar Navigation Exercise”, Jake NEWHAM (CO3 at
the time) was talking to one of the flight-line crew.
In the dark, they didn’t notice that the rubber mainwheel
had been left hanging over an external fuel tank. Jake
then took off…
Drag forces made the chocks become tightly wedged between
the wing and external fuel tank.
Given that it was night flying, when the Mirage returned and came to a stop, the
“stuck” chocks were not obvious, since they were black rubber
and the lighter-coloured rope was stuck in the crevice between
the Supersonic Tank and the mounting pod.
I was refuelling the “SS” tank and noticed the chocks. (With a fuel tanker parked directly behind the aircraft, two hoses could be used from the tanker. One was used to refill the internal tanks and one was used to refill the external tanks – in this case 110 gallons in the supersonic tanks.) By this time, Jake had already walked to the flight-line desk and written up a rudder trim problem! It took considerable effort to cut the chocks loose without damaging the Mirage. (But in the end, this was achieved.) I do recall the “Supersonic Chocks” being displayed behind Darky CLARKE’s desk on the wall of his office. It was one of Jake’s last 3SQN flights, before he handed over to Ted Radford.
A contact request below from Robert DEARDS (that the Association has been unable to resolve - so far!):
am originally from Dungog NSW.
From 1953 until 1978, I lived next door to Christine
BORTHWICK, who in around 1970 married Flying
Lloyd Manning SMITH.
Lloyd was stationed at Butterworth and on the night of 4
May 1972, while on a night-flying exercise, his aircraft crashed,
killing him instantly.
I lost touch with Christine shortly after that and I
have now been trying for some time to locate her.
She had a sister living in New Zealand, but I have had
no success there. Both
Christine's parents are now deceased.
- I was hoping that you may be able to put me in
contact with Christine. Thanking
you in advance.
Our member Cecil PLUMB (WW2 Armourer) and his wife Edna featured in a lovely article about their 73-year marriage, in the Ballarat Courier in January 2020.
Doug NORRIE of 450 Sqn Assn has sent in a bright and breezy photo of George BARTSCH in the North African desert, circa 1942.
Unfortunately George lost his life after ain 3SQN’s history, 18 December 1942.
Marble Arch, a newly-occupied landing-ground on the Libyan coast, was infested with German anti-personnel mines. 3SQN suffered the loss of five groundcrew killed and three others injured after an 'S'-Mine [“Bouncing Betty”] was tripped by a refuelling party. George was badly injured.he succumbed to his injuries in a Benghazi hospital on 19 December 1942.
LAC George M. BARTSCH
[Photo courtesy Bob Gillett collection]
Historian Andrew ARTHY from Western Australia has recently published some that reveals a previously-unknown incident on 12 October 1941, when the greatest German “Ace” of the desert war, Hans Joachim MARSEILLE, almost had his career prematurely terminated when he was shot down by Allied pilots. (Fortunately for Marseille, he lived to tell the tale and went on to .)
3SQN Kittyhawks also featured in that day’s frenetic combats. Andrew says: “Congratulations on your excellent No.3 Squadron RAAF website, which is often a useful source for my research.”
Our member Des SHEEHAN, whose father Malcolm was a 3AFC pilot in WW1, has been doing some shopping on the Internet, where a genuine WW1 flying helmet and goggles came up for sale. These were formerly the property of Sgt Arthur EAGLES, a 3AFC ground-crew Armourer. (Groundcrew often flew on test flights in the RE8s after conducting maintenance.)
The 100th Anniversary of the first Commercial Passenger Flight between Sydney and Melbourne – piloted by 3AFC veteran pilot Nigel LOVE - was on the 14th of April 2020. The original trip required nine flying hours - but because of difficult weather conditions, two overnight stops had to be made. (The SYD-MEL air route has become one of the world’s busiest, with 9 million passenger journeys per year by 2019. Flying time is one hour!)
0820am, 14/4/1920. Nigel’s AVRO 504K departs Mascot.
Our member Andy RAWLINSON (son of WW2 CO3 Alan) has discovered an old copy of “Secrets Revealed” [3SQN 75th-Birthday History] that was sent to his dad, signed by an absolute “Valhalla” of 3SQN WW2 personalities.
Tributes to Peter TURNBULL, killed in action 27 August 1942 (Milne Bay) and Johnny SAUNDERS, KIA on 22 November 1941 (Western Desert).
Dedication: "19.9.91. Al, from us at the 3 SQN 75th. Good Cheer."
Signatures: Fred EGGLESTON Sept-Dec '41; Merv BECK; Geoff CHINCHEN '41, '42; Brian EATON; Nicky BARR; Gordon STEEGE; Bob DAVIES Padre;
Slim MOORE; Ron MATTHEWS; Bob GIBBES; A. W. S. DAWKINS; Fred McKAY; Bruce BURCHFIELD, Tom RUSSELL; Ted SAVAGE.
We have been contacted by 73-y.o. Rick THORN, who offered a spectacular account of one of 3SQN’s most famous ex-Commanding Officers, Bill BOSTOCK, who rose high in the RAAF in WW2.
Rick's words have now been set into a new illustrated "Lifetimes" article about Bill.
Our Canberra correspondent Gordon BENNETT spotted the classic image below, showing the Heraldry on one of 3SQN’s “Classic” F18s.
- From those happy days of yore when a bit of colour didn’t ruin the aircraft’s radar signature!
[For more MitchPix RAAF photos see Facebook.]
[Every marking on the new F-35s - even the tiny Australian flag - is rendered only in black, white, or shades of grey.]
John LOVE sends a picture (below) of his acceptance speech at the induction ceremony for his father Nigel LOVE into the “Australian Aviation Hall of Fame” at a testimonial dinner in Canberra.
The dinner was held in the ANZAC Hall of the Australian War Memorial. John says the location gave the evening a really special atmosphere. The top brass of RAAF were also in attendance to receive their own award. The night ended with Peter Jackson's WW1 video "Over the Front".
The War Memorial contains an incredible array of art, including the hand-crafted decoration of the building itself. John recommends anon the AWM’s Hall of Memory, narrated by Brendan NELSON. (Who retired from his much-revered position of Director of the AWM at the end of 2019.)
QLD Secretary, sends:
In early February I went to Melbourne to present the Book “THE LIZARDS THAT FLEW”, and some 3SQN Memorabilia, to the RAAF Museum at Point Cook, in the company of Ted RADFORD and Lizard Bruce LOVETT, on behalf of the Association.
John LANE in Melbourne (son of 3SQN Mustang pilot “Dusty” LANE, who operated in Northern Italy 75 years ago) has sent in the following historic photo:
I remember you mentioned, who perished during a dive-bombing operation on the 14th of April 1945.
Dusty was on that sortie and mentions Jim “going in” at the bottom of his dive. This photo of “Jungle Jim’s” initial resting place, taken by Dusty, may be of interest to others.
Also, I was contacted by Tim ALSOP recently, thanking me for the note I sent after Dusty’s funeral in early August 2016. The letter and copies of Dusty’s flight log relating to 3SQN only took 3½ years to find Tim!
- We did have a laugh about the Air-Force mail system!
Richard LAMB graduated from the Royal Military College Duntroon (Canberra) in 1966 and is currently doing historical research into the early graduates of the College. He has flagged the somewhat bizarre coincidence of two Duntroon Cadets graduating together in 1920, both later being killed in separate RAAF crashes in the 1920s.
- Both flying 3 Squadron aircraft and both in Canberra!
In 1926, Flying Officer “Peter” PITT was the pilot in the ACT’s first fatal air-crash (a 3SQN DH9). One year later, Flying Officer Francisdied in a shocking and unexpected 3SQN SE5a crash, during the opening of Parliament House in 1927. (In front of many dignitaries, including the Prime Minister, Dame Nellie Melba and the future King George VI and his wife.)
Richard has been instrumental in getting old RMC Journals digitised [and was able to direct us to a photo of Ewen (left) and Pitt (right) together in the RMC 1920 Rugby First XV. Richard also found RMC obituaries that have helped us to expand our biographies of these two men.
We must also thank Richard for personally hiking through the Queanbeyan winter to take a photograph the unmarked plot of Pitt’s grave.
The Association is lobbying for the installation of an appropriate gravestone for Pitt by 2026 (before the 100th Anniversary of his crash).
Chris CAMERON from rural Queensland (son of WW2 3SQN ace “Tiny”) spotted a very familiar name in our June 3SQN Newsletter edition. It prompted this great story:
“Thank you for another neat Newsletter!! Always enjoy getting these and reading through what you have managed to uncover since the last one!!
This time you had mention of another old friend and connection, Laurie Le Guay, the photographer. I originally got to know him as one of the Trustees of the National Photographic Index of Australian Birds, based at the Sydney Museum, back in the late 60’s - early 70’s at a time when my bird photography was getting good enough that I was getting work accepted into the Index. This Collection became the basis for the quite large “Readers’ Digest” publication, where almost every Australian bird was reproduced by photograph, something never done previously.
In 1974, as the publication date was approaching, it was realised that there was one significant group missing, about 25 odd species that come down from New Guinea into the very Northern part of Cape York…
Apparently no-one had ever been up there seriously, with a camera…
An expedition was organised, funded by Westpac, and half a dozen people were sent up for about six weeks to try to get as many as possible of them.
As a fairly capable country person with reasonable survival skills, and very reasonable photography ability, I was fortunate to be offered a place. Laurie, as another capable photographer, and a Trustee of the Index, was also along, the first time we had actually met and worked together!
Laurie (being Laurie!) had along an ‘Assistant’… - A tall, willowy, very attractive blonde American, whose daddy also happened to be the Boss of Pan Am… She could fly anywhere, at any time, without question, or worrying about paying for it, apparently…
It was interesting working with her in the quite remote region where we were camped out, in the rainforest at Iron Range, where it rained almost every day!! Lisa HALABY was her name.
As an aside, the Expedition was hugely successful!
Of the birds needed, we succeeded in getting 18, if I remember correctly. Missed a few that were still out on migration and had not returned while we were there in the late Dry Season….
I have about half a dozen pictures in the two Editions of the big bird book…. Great fun!
Not too long after that, Lisa’s wedding photos turned up in the ‘Women’s Weekly’! An occasion of some note, as she had married King Hussein of Jordan, becoming Queen Noor el Hussein (‘Light of Hussein’ I believe it loosely translates to).
The King passed away some time ago, but I believe Lisa is still alive, and was a huge success in that rather difficult land!!
While there, Laurie and I did have a number of discussions about doings with 3SQN in the Western Desert, where he obviously knew my father well!!
Laurie was a great Fashion Photographer and at that time my Commercial Photography career was just getting going, so he became another of my ‘mentors’ for quite a period… Until his untimely death in fact.”
“The Pheasantry”, South Carlton.
When those kids I mentioned were growing old, I heard lots from them about the. I know that Tom and Flo had been good to the latter (as of course they would be, given the circumstances); and I believe postcards were sent back when your lads transferred to France. I also have some photos of some of them in uniform...
I naturally read thewith great interest. As you will know, South Carlton is a very small and quite picturesque village, but in a sense the location is also dramatic, as it is tucked at the bottom of what we call the Lincoln Edge. At the top there is flat/gently sloping land, elevated above the surroundings to the east by maybe 200 feet, so presumably when got airborne, that was an advantage.
The other photo I enclose here is of an inscribed teapot the Aussies gave my great grandad and his wife when they moved on.
Presentation teapot, engraved:
”Mr and Mrs Richards, from 69th Squadron AFC.”
[Note: By not using the British-style “No.69” the AFC boys were differentiating themselves from the British RFC!]
It was a thoughtful gift, and was long given pride of place…
Please have no doubt that we Brits DO NOT forget, and – leaving all banter and teasing aside – honour and love and are grateful to our Australian cousins for being with us back then (same for 1939-45, obviously). From the stories I used to hear, I know my family back then felt absolutely the same way.
This postcard from the Richards collection, printed before WW1 in Ballarat, shows
Thomas Darrell KAY (1886-1963) – a 3AFC Sergeant who became a famous aviator.
An account of his amazing adventures in the 1919 England to Australia Air Race is in:
Joe BARTOP, from
the RAF Scampton Church in the UK, wrote to tell us that they
are fundraising for a
3SQN Association has made a donation in memory of , one of the earliest 3AFC casualties, who died in a training accident at Scampton Aerodrome in 1917.
Our member David BOYD has very kindly added captions to some of the photographs of his dad John on our(3SQN WW2 Mustang Pilots).
An interesting WW1 photo
album has been digitised on the National Library of Australia’s
It contains 61 images, collected by a photography-minded Air Mechanic of 3AFC. Click ‘Browse Collection’ to view thumbnails, then zoom in for terrific detail.
[Recommended by the Australian Society of WW1 Aero Historians.]
John JOSHUA’s photo of 3AFC ground staff lining up for food at Bertangles aerodrome, France, 1918.
The team at ADF Serials has posted a good online article about the. These appeared on the fuselages of RAAF aircraft from 1956 - but the kangaroos did not hop onto the wings until 1965!
This confirms a memory
that Jim HALL had, of both new and old styles being in use in
the 1960s. “A great article that finally clears up a lot of
arguments,” says Jim.
In 1994, the fate of the LAST aircraft downed by 3SQN (25 years ago) was described in the Canberra Times:
Air Force fighter pilots from Australia and Malaysia both made an error of judgment which led to a mid-air collision between their two aircraft in Malaysia, according to a RAAF Board of Inquiry. At 10.41am on October 13, 1994, an F/A-18 Hornet from the RAAF's 3 Squadron [A21-53] and a Royal Malaysian Air Force F5E from No.12 Squadron collided during a training exercise over the sea, south-west of Butterworth air base, near Penang. The Board's report said both pilots took avoiding action, but the RMAF aircraft sustained major damage and its pilot ejected. [Unharmed: Lt. M. B. MOHAMAD, rescued by helicopter 1½ hours later.] The Australian pilot managed to nurse his damaged Hornet back to Butterworth. [FLTLT Andrew GILLESPIE. - We’re unsure if he was awarded a “kill” for this mission!]
The Board of Inquiry concluded that the accident followed an error of judgment on the part of both pilots, who failed to take action early enough to avoid the collision. It found that neither pilot had acted in a negligent manner. "Due to the dynamic circumstances of aerial combat training, particularly the disparity between the FA-18's attitude and its flightpath as the aircraft descended from a nose-high reversing manoeuvre, time for assessment and resolution of the impending collision was minimal," the Board said. It determined that the pilots were qualified and that the mission was well-briefed and conducted in accordance with relevant orders and instructions. It also found that all manoeuvres flown by both pilots before impact had been professional and competent.
A21-53 with 3SQN markings, flying “nose high”…
Adrian HELLWIG, Newsletter Editor of the Australian Society of WW1 Aero Historians, has sent in an interesting item about the Australian Joint Copying Project:
“Access to UK records is often difficult, and usually expensive, but some relief may be at hand. The National Library of Australia is digitising 10,419 microfilm reels photographed during the Australian Joint Copying Project. This ran from 1948 to 1997 and copied historical material in British archives that related to Australia, NZ and the Pacific. All the microfilm will be digitised and searchable by June 2020, but a trawl of the Air Ministry recordsmay bring rewards.”
For instance, an important figure in 3AFC history tells his own story: “”
- His 2nd topic recalls a historic episode when Anderson made the first North-to-South crossing of Bass Strait by air - sadly involving the loss of an accompanying aircraft carrying Billy STUTT and Abner DALZELL (ex-3AFC).
A rare newspaper photo of Anderson’s Bass-Strait-conquering DH-9A aircraft (F2779), in Tasmania.
[Inset top right: Portrait of Anderson.]
During his extensive air-search for Stutt and Dalzell, Anderson also set an Australian flight-endurance record
of 6 hours and 16 minutes.
Our regular Canberra correspondent Gordon BENNETT recommends the following web-page - a history of “warlike” operations at Butterworth, compiled by a former 2SQN Instrument Fitter Hugh CROWTHER. This piece is particularly well illustrated and, while rather opinionated, makes interesting reading!
John NASH, who is a researcher at the Australian War Memorial in Canberra, is working on the Official History of Australian Operations in Iraq & Afghanistan. John tells us that they are very interested in thedisplayed on the 3SQN Assn website; in particular the photos.
– We were able to give John a contact for Darryl and hopefully his work will now be getting a wider audience courtesy of the Official History.
Our member John LOVE will be attending a dinner in Canberra later this year, where his dad Nigel will be posthumously named in the Australian Aviation Hall of Fame.
Nigel had a lot of contact with Ross and Keith SMITH when they flew their record-breaking Vickers Vimy aircraft to. It’s now most gratifying to see that the Mechanics on that first successful flight from England to Australia, , will also be among the new Hall of Fame inductees.
The Smiths, Bennett and Shiers with their Vimy bomber.
These skilled engineers (both ex-Australian Flying Corps) flew all the way with the Vimy. They performed an absolutely essential role in the safe arrival of their expedition. - It’s a great pity that they did not receive as much publicity or credit as their two pilots.
Mechanics made great sacrifices in the cause of aviation pioneering. - The Hall of Fame brief doesn't mention the poignant fact that Bennett was killed, along with Ross Smith, in theirin England in 1922.
[By bizarre coincidence, the Vickers Viking was the same rare aircraft-type that had earlier killed the famous Atlantic first-flight pioneer Sir John ALCOCK.]
Ross SMITH (left) and James BENNETT (right) with the designer of
their Vickers Viking amphibian biplane (centre).
Mike SWAN, a former 3SQN Armourer, has sent in a very atmospheric picture of 3 Squadron’s involvement in Exercise Kangaroo ’89 in Northern Australia.
Compared to the Government’s propaganda poster…
The reality on the ground was a little more prosaic…
- Aren’t 3SQN’s groundcrew a fine body of men!
Mike says, “That’s me with the green hat and hands in pockets…”
Sandi NIPPERESS, Secretary of 450 SQN Association, has done a great job restoring an image of a 3SQN WW2 member,.
“Della” was an Aircraft Hand with 3SQN, between May '41 and May '42
(Syria / Egypt / Libya). Later he was promoted to Flight Mechanic, on
3SQN recommendation, before he returned to Australia.
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